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Samsung Galaxy Note 6 vs Galaxy Note 4 comparison: high Notes

Samsung Galaxy Note 6 vs Galaxy Note 4 comparison: high Notes

Folks online often cite the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 as one of the best Android smartphones ever. If you happen to own one, then I expect your sights are set squarely on the next iteration of the series. The Galaxy Note 6 will be released later this year and the rumors are piling up. What’s going to change and what’s going to stay the same? Here are my current thoughts.

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The Galaxy Note 4 (left) and the Galaxy Note 5. Where is the Note headed next? / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Design

The Galaxy Note 4 was where Samsung began making serious strides to improve one of its (perceived) biggest weaknesses: device design. The Note 4 succeeded in many ways but it was the use of the metallic rim on the device, the cold, flat metal and chamfered edges, that immediately hooked us at AndroidPIT and hinted at the high-quality to come in software and performance.

To that end, it wouldn't be unfair to say that the two-year-old Galaxy Note 4 can stand shoulder-to-shoulder (or power button to power button) with 2016’s flagships. Two generations is a long time in smartphone years and it’s a credit to the Note 4 design that it still holds up today.

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The Galaxy Note 4 (front) and Note 5 housed many physical similarities. / © ANDROIDPIT

So where is Samsung headed next with Note aesthetics? Cast a glance at the interim device, the Note 5, for some clues. This was the first in the series to go all metal and glass and the same appears to be on the cards for the sixth-generation device.

The Galaxy S series often acts as an indicator of upcoming Note design practices but this time the current flagship is an unreliable barometer. The reason is that the Galaxy S7 took many design cues from the Note 5, making it harder for Samsung to iterate on this again and ensure the Note 6 delivers a fresh appearance.

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The Galaxy Note 5 (left) housed a glass rear as expected on the upcoming Note 6. / © ANDROIDPIT

What I do predict – and in 2012 we did predict Google+ would outgrow Facebook, so, you know, we’re basically wizards – is a metal body with curved glass rear, greater screen-to-body ratio than the Note 4 (in excess of ~74 percent), microSD support, water resistance, fingerprint scanner and heart-rate monitor. Pretty safe bets, there.

As for exclusions, don’t expect a removable battery: why would anybody want one now when you can buy a cheaper and more convenient portable battery pack? Also, an IR blaster (featured on the Note 4) may not appear on the Note 6 (Samsung dropped it on the recent S7).

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The Note 4 design shares more in common with the Galaxy S5 than Galaxy S6 (left). / © ANDROIDPIT

With Samsung already delivering premium quality with its Notes, no doubt it will attempt to add some “flashy” new features to help with the Note 6’s marketing. A combined stylus and kickstand is one of the potential options, as is the laptop dock idea (both previously rumored but I wouldn’t count on either).

Why does anybody want a removable battery? Just buy a portable charger.

Whatever happens, it’s unlikely that Samsung will rely solely on a “Note 5 with better specs” approach. We’ll hope for a new key feature but we’ll expect a gimmick or two.

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Galaxy Note 4 and iPhone 6 Plus. / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Display

The Galaxy Note 4 sported a QHD display, another of its features helping it to remain competitive in 2016. The Note 6 will likely feature the same resolution, though Samsung could surprise us with a 4K display since Sony previously set this precedent. Unlikely, however.

What has greater potential is the possibility that Samsung will release Note 6 with a curved display.

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The S6 Edge+ (left) from 2015 and the Galaxy Note 4. / © ANDROIDPIT

By now, Samsung has released a number of curved screen phones and rumor has it that the Korean giant is prototyping two Note versions: one with a flat display and a curved variant.

Of course, Samsung has already released a curved phablet this year, the Galaxy S7 Edge, and unless it pursues only curved devices from here on out, I see no reason why the Note 6 would take this approach (famous last words *gulp*).

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Samsung delivered a great curved phablet earlier this year: the Galaxy S7 Edge. / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Camera

The Note 4’s camera was superior to much of the 2014 competition and with the Galaxy S7 showing once again how proficient Samsung can be in this category, expect more great things from the Note 6.

I can't see why Samsung would release the S7 Edge and a curved Galaxy Note phablet so close together

The current speculation suggests the Note 6 will have a 25 MP camera and f/1.4 aperture lens, which would certainly provide strong low-light performance, but also sounds a little too good to be true.

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In daylight, taking photos was a pleasure on the Note 4. / © ANDROIDPIT

Given current smartphone camera quality, a revolution here is unlikely. It might be the best camera on Android when it’s released, but I wouldn’t expect it will be far ahead of the competition: I've heard no murmurings of any camera tech revolution on the horizon.

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The Note 4's low-light performance is slightly underwhelming by today's standards. / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Performance specs and software

The Note 4 carried 3 GB of RAM and a Snapdragon 805 processor: expect more RAM and a faster processor on the Note 6. There's not much else to say on that front. Performance hardware is unlikely to add much to the Note 6 experience but the phone may operate a little faster than the Note 4.

The Galaxy Note 4 is up and running with the latest version of Android, that is Android Marshmallow. The Note 6 will likely arrive with the same and receive a fairly quick update to Android Nougat (is that confirmed, yet?). The Note 4 probably won't receive the next major version of Android and this presents one of the key areas where the Note 6 will provide a real purchasing incentive to existing Note 4 users. 

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Samsung's Notes have spearheaded multitasking on Android. / © ANDROIDPIT

Not only will the Note 6 receive whatever spectacular improvements Google comes up with for Android N but Samsung’s TouchWiz interface may also receive an overhaul, along with the Note series' S Pen software, Air Command.

Performance hardware is unlikely to add much to the Note 6 experience but the phone may operate a little faster than the Note 4

Throughout its life, Air Command has gone through several small but necessary improvements. The latest version looked better than ever and was also at its most functional. Though we have no idea what the future holds for this IP, Samsung usually tends to prioritize it.

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Air Command has gone through several iterations: what's next? / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Battery and storage

The Note 4’s battery has a 3,220-mAh capacity and featured wireless and fast charging capabilities. It is also removable.

The Note 6 is rumored to have a 4,200-mAh battery: one of the largest capacity batteries on a modern flagship. This, sadly, is mere speculation at this point.

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Are we really still hung up on removable batteries? / © ANDROIDPIT

It’s also believed that the Note 6 will adopt a USB Type-C connector. Naturally, many devices are adopting this technology but – and this is a big "but" – if the Note 6 does have USB Type C, it will render itself incompatible with Samsung’s Gear VR headset.

No doubt Samsung intends to pursue virtual reality further: meaning the Note 6 launch may coincide with a new version of the Gear VR. And, honestly, I confess I'm excited by the prospect of the Note 6 with a new VR headset.

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Samsung has held tight to microUSB on the Note 4 (top) and Note 5 (bottom). What about the 6? / © ANDROIDPIT

The VR and AR landscape is going to boom following the release of the Rift and Vive, and of all the ways the Note 6 could improve on the Note 4 and 5, VR is possibly the most likely (and I think most interesting).

I confess I'm excited by the prospect of the Note 6 with a new VR headset

It has also been suggested that the Note 6 will come with 256 GB of internal storage. Good for file hoarders but no doubt unnecessary for most users. Hopefully, this is reserved for the premium model, with the base model holding less internal storage space for a lower price.

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Samsung could now compete with the huge batteries found in the Huawei Mate series. / © ANDROIDPIT

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs Galaxy Note 6: Price and conclusion

The Galaxy Note 6 will probably be one of the most expensive Android phablets ever – even for the entry level (lowest storage space) variant. The Note 4 can be found on Amazon right now for around $450 but expect the Note 6 to cost in excess of $700.  

In previous years, we've had clear indications of the Note series' direction but the Note 6 is a tough one. I mean, right now we don't even know if it will have a curved or flat display.

What we do know is that Samsung really delivered on the Galaxy S series this year, with what we currently believe is the best Android phone in the world. Maybe that's reason enough to get excited for the Note 6?

What do you hope for from the Galaxy Note 6? Tell us in the comments.

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  • Greg1100 May 10, 2016

    A spare battery takes far less room in a pocket than a battery pack. PLUS, if phone freezes- and they do, a quick battery removal sorts that out straight away, without having to faff about with key combinations. If there are any.
    People in offices forget that there are others who have no access to a wall charger by day or at night.
    This is why we like and want removable batteries.
    I personally would rather have a phone with a removable battery than all this water resistant stuff. Anyone who gets their £600+ phone ANYWHERE near water, is a braver person than me.
    Electronics and water never did mix too well.

  • Alex Robinson May 10, 2016

    The idea of carrying a charger around is ridiculous. This kind of garbage comes from the likes of IPhone users. I never plug in my phone and never run out of juice because I always have one full battery in my pocket and one in the charger. Samsung needs to pay less attention to the pundits who put form over function and pay more attention to its loyal fan base. Samsung also needs to revive the FM radio. The hardware is there. Why disable it? Also, if it has USB C, it better be able to do HDMI out.

  • Derrick Moore May 10, 2016

    It literally takes less than 30 seconds to swap a battery... Not an inconvenience at all..

  • No Name May 10, 2016

    I concur with the majority of commenters on the removable battery issue! The writer has a serious case of stuffiness on the subject, and another serious case of naive office worker "Headupassitis"... I think it's also called rectalcraniopathy. Apparently, he thinks everyone works around electrical outlets or cigarette lighter outlets.

    The even bigger issue for me is the occasional need to yank the battery to completely unfreeze the phone.

    And the biggest issue is, with an unremovable battery, that the life of the phone is limited to the life of the battery. I will NOT watch a YouTube video and spend an hour fucking up my phone permanently trying to replace a battery that should be replaceable in one minute.

    And furthermore, how in the hell is someone (not me because I won't do it anyway), going to watch a video while replace the battery on the only device you likely have available for watching the damn video? Riddle me that riddle!

    Honestly, these special hothouse flowers who work in offices and write tech articles are a special breed of naive! They can't conceive of any world...except for the kind that they themselves live in.

    I am an otr semi truckdriver. Most drivers have only ONE connection to the internet on the road, and must be on the road for weeks or months. They don't have the option to drive the semi into a car parking lot at Sprint or Verizon and swap out phones...let alone in the middle of the night on a weekend in BFE Montana!! Let alone further, sit there a couple of weeks potentially to wait for the replacement repaired device to be returned to them.

    Personally, I have two devices, but that is rare. I have my primary Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and my old Note 2 for a backup. But I will NEVER give up the security and convenience of a consumer replaceable battery.

    In fact, I avoided the Galaxy Note 5 which I had been looking forward to, because it lacked the replaceable battery and a micro-sdcard. Both of which I will never accept a phone without. Yes I know ALL the pluses and minuses about the presence or lack of each. And the pluses are decidedly on the side of the personal power and options that having each feature gives you.

    Those who don't want a micro-sdcard are free to not use it. Those who don't want to replace the battery or yank it to fix the freezing problem, are free to never take the back off their phone and can just take it in to the repair center as is their preference and perfect right to do. They can buy another phone when the replaceable battery warps, and throw away the perfectly good phone and have it sent to a toxic waste dump in rural China if that's what blows their dress up. Personally, I would rather replace the battery and keep on using it...which is why I can say this. Under NO circumstances will I be buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 6,UNLESS it has both a micro-sdcard AND consumer replaceable battery.

    In fact I am seriously going to be looking at the successor to the LG G5, I just need it to come with a stylus. I can't understand why I am limited to looking at Samsungs for a stylus phone.

  • Michael K May 10, 2016

    The more you use your phone, the faster the battery will deteriorate. If you are a power user you will need another battery after about 8 months to a year. Batteries are much easier to carry around than a battery pack. I have 3 extra batteries for my Note 4.

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  • Batteries take a finite number of charges. Then they are a paperwright. Why would I want to have to buy a new phone or get to a service when the battery is finally unchargeable?
    Getting on a plane to go away for 3 weeks I took extra batteries, kept on contact and got lots of photos. My friends unchangeable battery phone died waiting to board. Battery pack was useless. Two paperweights to lug around. Trip was made difficult, at least I had photos to share. Buying a new phone was not an option travelling through europe. Keep telling people they don't want a changeable battery, but it shows you are naive or bought or something .


  • After changing 3 batteries, and 2 phones in 1 year by AT&T Note 4 has a serious issue with battery that all the above couldnt change!
    We have the latest tech, but its being done in the worst way possible.


    • I am a heavy user of the Note 4 and have had it for 18months. I also have an IT degree. You seriously don't have a clue. The Note 4 is still around because of the stupidity of Samsungs marketing department deciding that they know better than the consumer.
      The Note 5 was not picked up by people like me who carry around a spare battery. As for your ridiculous comment about shutting the phone down before turning ot off! What absolute rubbish. The phone is frozen, by definition you can't turn it off. On the other hand it does nothing except turn the phone off when you do take the battery out.
      Because I the Galaxy Note 5 came without a changeable battery r and SD card, I went out and bought a Microsoft phone. What an absolute waste of $1,200! Samsung had better get it right this time and give the consumer what they want because in all seriousness that couldn't have gotten it more wrong last time.
      That is the loyal note users left or tried to leave in droves.
      As for the battery life. My Note 4 lasts as ;omg today as it did the day I bought it. I have a spare 4200MAH battery which I have used on a few occasion.
      NH


      • So how long does your battery lasts on one charge? I can understand that wondering in the hospital from one place to another can suck battery heavily, due to wifi. Shut the wifi off and I can get 10 hours. Again I would be only reading news and keep on clearing the memory the whole time, still battery gets losts fast on wifi at work. I have 500+ apps, still I tried the note 4 with 50 apps, I still got same thing.

        But: why is my friend getting normal loss on her battery although she uses it far much more then me? She also wonders in the hospital from one place to another!

        And why was my battery doing better job outside work and now I cant get full day? I only use original chargers


  • You bang on about using wireless chargers and battery packs but who wants a battery pack connected via a micro USB adapter or USB c in your pocket?? Thanks asking for damage to the socket. Im a geezer and don't carry bags. Phone battery cases weigh too much and are too bulky. A spare battery is thin and lightweight. Easy to swap over. Stop saying we don't need replacable batteries else these stupid manufacturers will never change!


    • Couldnt be more correct. AtT changed my note 4 battery 3 times, changed the phone twice in 1 year, and still I bought an expensive Samsung 9500mAmp battery pack. 1st 3 charges it was giving me fast charging then stopped. I got another one that didnt do fast charging from day one. Im stock with it. Imagine: Beside the power pack the 1st 2 phones had Zerolemon 10000mAmp battery instead of original. All that was (still, without the zerolemon this time) not enough, although I was literaly using my phone at work only for a combined hour or 2 for news, no media or social.
      Is it the WIFI there? Well could be, but another girl has a Note 4 and she does far much work on it and lasts bw day to day and a half. An IT guy told me his iPhone reached 80% in by noon (after 5 hours of work). The 1st 2 phones with zerolemon were dying out and inside work in max 8 hours. My shift is 10 hr.
      My 3rd phone lasted a day at the begining outside work, but now its declining.
      Bottomline: it has to be removable.


  • Ridiculous if Samsung forgets to put in a removable battery. Again!
    As a longtime Samsung customer I said goodbye to Samsung after the note 4.
    And it seems to me they don't get me back.


  • This device should come with ir blaster ....


    • Can you use it to blast people who want to deny others the versatility and convenience of having a consumer replaceable battery?? If so sign me up.


  • The idea of carrying a charger around is ridiculous. This kind of garbage comes from the likes of IPhone users. I never plug in my phone and never run out of juice because I always have one full battery in my pocket and one in the charger. Samsung needs to pay less attention to the pundits who put form over function and pay more attention to its loyal fan base. Samsung also needs to revive the FM radio. The hardware is there. Why disable it? Also, if it has USB C, it better be able to do HDMI out.


  • It literally takes less than 30 seconds to swap a battery... Not an inconvenience at all..


    • "It literally takes less than 30 seconds to swap a battery... Not an inconvenience at all.." Yeah buuuuuut....

      You have to do this more than once. You have to charge the extra battery, then remove it once it's charged, and then put it back into the device later when the other battery is depleted. A portable charge pack can be charged outside of the handset.

      Also, you need to switch your device off to do a battery swap. You don't to charge it with a portable power supply.

      Each to their own :)


      • This is OUR choice. If you don't want to swap batteries you can still use a portable power supply with a phone that has a consumer replaceable battery if you like. No one is stopping you from doing that.

        It is you, and people like you, who are directly denying us our right to swap batteries, by influencing the OEMs to prioritize form OVER function by integrating the battery.

        A phone should, within reason, serve the widest possible customer base, and this is achieved by having a consumer replaceable battery and a micro-sdcard. Those who don't want to avail themselves of these features are welcome to avoid doing so.

        As for the fetish of 'thin and light', IMHO phones became TOO thin and TOO light a few years ago! Holding onto tbem is like trying to hold onto a super slippery, very thin bar of soap. Dropping the phone is inevitable. And breakage is inevitable. Also being thinner and lighter, regardless of materials used, tends to make them more fragile, or at least more susceptible to internal damage from being dropped...because they can no longer be held onto with any certainty.

        One of the reasons I get an Otterbox is to make mine thicker and heavier...as well as to give that welcome thicker edge a rubbery surface to make it easier to hold on to. As a result I haven't dropped either of my phones in years...not once. That extra thickness and rubber grip surface are two interlinked reasons why a case (or the equivalent integrated design in a phone) makes a phone less likely to be broken...it's not just the fact that it is in a protective case. It's the fact you don't drop it nearly as much as if it were thinner & slipperier.

        So, yeah, an integrated battery lets them make the phones slightly thinner than a replaceable battery (and undoubtedly has a few other minor 'actual improvements'), but thinner isn't an improvement anymore IMHO. Thin and light has run its course and should not be considered an 'improvement' anymore.

        Instead, phones should be designed to incorporate all the advantages of an Otterbox type case, so that a case isn't necessary anymore. Putting a case on a phone is like putting a heavy fur coat on it...it is a MAJOR, MAJOR heat retainer! I've complained and complained about this to Otterbox, but to no avail. Their product is unfortunately necessary for now. But phones should be designed to make cases unnecessary in the future and to make the phone far more grippy along the edge...which necessitates more thickness...and a rubbery grip surface. This will avoid the extreme heat retention of a case. Phones are not designed with the heat retention of a case in mind, ANY case at all, except possibly the thin OEM case. And cases are NOT designed to wick away the heat using an integrated copper mesh heatsink, which I've suggested to Otterbox. This heat being held in will prematurely age a battery, but it's either that or drop and break your phone. Some OEM should start the process of breaking these tradeoffs, and should simultaneously stop the silly worshipping at the false 'Altar of Thin and Light'. Thin and light is over as far as I'm concerned! Phones will be as thin as a sharp knife before long if they keep this nonsense up, and you'll cut your fingers off trying to hold onto the edge.


      • I already posted above my experience with Sami batteries, its nothing but night mare. I posted few comments up. Get back to it. I would like to say: I had the same exact problem with Note1 and 3.
        Actually Sami should offer 2 choices: thin small batteries if tgat what u want, and thicker with respectable mamps in them. I careless for thinnes!


      • Corrrrrrect. I demand options: instead of buying a non OEM aftermarket thicker batteries that we arent sure how good they are, let OEM make such batteries. If what u care for is nothing but thinnes, you have an option. If u care for functionality you get a real bigger battery.


      • And your point is ? I won't buy a phone with out the ability to change a battery.


  • Note 4 best Samsung phone to buy,changed to S6 Edge Plus after buying the S6 edge for a friend,battery life o.k but just missing swapping batteries,edge screens make your phone look better but using the edge functions drains the battery,tried the S7 Edge but because of waterproofing Samsung did not but loud speakers on this phone, so will stick with the S6 Edge Plus to see what the Note 6 as to offer


  • I concur with the majority of commenters on the removable battery issue! The writer has a serious case of stuffiness on the subject, and another serious case of naive office worker "Headupassitis"... I think it's also called rectalcraniopathy. Apparently, he thinks everyone works around electrical outlets or cigarette lighter outlets.

    The even bigger issue for me is the occasional need to yank the battery to completely unfreeze the phone.

    And the biggest issue is, with an unremovable battery, that the life of the phone is limited to the life of the battery. I will NOT watch a YouTube video and spend an hour fucking up my phone permanently trying to replace a battery that should be replaceable in one minute.

    And furthermore, how in the hell is someone (not me because I won't do it anyway), going to watch a video while replace the battery on the only device you likely have available for watching the damn video? Riddle me that riddle!

    Honestly, these special hothouse flowers who work in offices and write tech articles are a special breed of naive! They can't conceive of any world...except for the kind that they themselves live in.

    I am an otr semi truckdriver. Most drivers have only ONE connection to the internet on the road, and must be on the road for weeks or months. They don't have the option to drive the semi into a car parking lot at Sprint or Verizon and swap out phones...let alone in the middle of the night on a weekend in BFE Montana!! Let alone further, sit there a couple of weeks potentially to wait for the replacement repaired device to be returned to them.

    Personally, I have two devices, but that is rare. I have my primary Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and my old Note 2 for a backup. But I will NEVER give up the security and convenience of a consumer replaceable battery.

    In fact, I avoided the Galaxy Note 5 which I had been looking forward to, because it lacked the replaceable battery and a micro-sdcard. Both of which I will never accept a phone without. Yes I know ALL the pluses and minuses about the presence or lack of each. And the pluses are decidedly on the side of the personal power and options that having each feature gives you.

    Those who don't want a micro-sdcard are free to not use it. Those who don't want to replace the battery or yank it to fix the freezing problem, are free to never take the back off their phone and can just take it in to the repair center as is their preference and perfect right to do. They can buy another phone when the replaceable battery warps, and throw away the perfectly good phone and have it sent to a toxic waste dump in rural China if that's what blows their dress up. Personally, I would rather replace the battery and keep on using it...which is why I can say this. Under NO circumstances will I be buying a Samsung Galaxy Note 6,UNLESS it has both a micro-sdcard AND consumer replaceable battery.

    In fact I am seriously going to be looking at the successor to the LG G5, I just need it to come with a stylus. I can't understand why I am limited to looking at Samsungs for a stylus phone.


    • Frank May 10, 2016 Link to comment

      Well said mate! I have the Note 4 and refuse to upgrade (?) to another phone without a removable battery. This phone still rocks.
      There is a way to reboot a frozen phone. I used to do the battery pull, but I found if you hold the volume down/home/power buttons gets you to the download mode. You have two options: press volume up for download mode, but if you press volume down, you will reboot your phone.


      • Thanks, I'll try to remember to try that someday. But I'm pretty sure that taking the battery out and waiting a minute or so and putting it back in accomplishes a few things that a simple reboot doesn't.

        The same could be accomplished with far less effort with a built-in hardware switch that directly cut the circuit from the battery to everything else. If you held such a button down, or better yet, switched it's position, for a minute it would be the exact same thing as taking off whatever case you might be using and then taking the back off the phone, waiting a minute...and reversing the procedure. A simple circuit breaker switch like this would also (unfortunately) remove this particular reason for people needing a consumer replaceable battery...which would hurt our argument, but it's still worth having.

        Just a simple completely physical (no software to be vulnerable to hacking) circuit breaker switch. One that slides or something rather than one you have hold down...for ease of access and use, since it would need to be recessed to avoid accidentally activating it. How hard is that for the phone manufacturers to think of on their own??

        I hope consumer replaceable batteries remain a thing forever, since there are always going to be solid reasons for them.

        As long as the following phrases retain any meaning at all for any segment of users, 'consumer replaceable batteries' will continue to be completely necessary for those of us who want control over our phones, and who value function over form: 'battery life', 'expanded capacity battery ', 'battery failure' (before total physical phone failure), and 'frozen phone that won't reboot'.

        Can anyone think of any additional scenarios that require a consumer replaceable battery?


      • @No Name. Thanks for the long and interesting comment. What does this mean, though?

        "Apparently, he thinks everyone works around electrical outlets or cigarette lighter outlets."

        Don't you need one of these to load a removable battery?


      • Yes, you will need one of those 'eventually'. But all you need for an already charged battery is a pocket to keep it in. I guess it boils down to whether you trust the grid (or your car) to hold the electricity more...or your pocket or some other hyper-local storage place...and which place you think you can get the electricity out of faster.

        I can get my electricity out of my pocket or wherever, faster than you can get yours out of the grid. Besides, I still have BOTH options available. Every option you have with an integrated battery, I have the same option available to me with a replaceable battery...plus additional options. Additional options is really the main advantage. Everything you can do with an integrated battery, I can do with a replaceable battery...plus additional things you can't do.

        But, of course, yeah, I'll need an outlet eventually. But 'eventually' is the point.

        Plus as has been stated, there are several other advantages of a consumer replaceable battery. Among which is the fact, since the battery swelling up isn't a phone life limiting event, I have the option of telling Samsung that I AGAIN won't be buying the newest Note UNLESS it has (among other requirements) a consumer replaceable battery. I can say with near absolute confidence (especially since I have a Note 2 as well) that I hold off buying another phone until they see it my way...or some other OEM makes something I like. If I had an integrated battery I would have to go around to the OEMs with my hat in my hands figuratively speaking. Therefore a consumer replaceable battery has an additional advantage that hasn't been mentioned here, and that is that the greater expected lifespan of the phone, besides being practical and resource efficient (rare earth metals, et al), is a consumer empowering feature. It gives us a greater amount of time to keep the phone if we don't like what the OEM is doing with the next couple of models. Can you say anything like that about an integrated battery?? No!


    • EG# May 10, 2016 Link to comment

      Best comment. Why oh why did Samsung f up the Notes after Note 4. If we wanted a non replaceable battery one would by the S series. The note is for power users and Micro SD and replaceble batteries are MAJOR features. These exclusions are DEAL BREAKERS! I will be leaving Samsung for LG until they take theier head out of their bottom. At this point there is minimal difference between a Note and an S series so why bother making one of them. The note line is now a joke. It's sad. A once great product ruined by management. How to save the product line is by differ differentiation by making one of them have a Micro SD and a removable battery. Who's the executive and analyst who said these were not important features. FIRE THEM!!!! Get management in place that reponse to the customers wants and needs.


    • You can get a 3rd party stylus and a stylii case for the exact same effect. Android M has support built in


    • Riiiiiight. Although i didnt really get the freezing issue (although my phone starts to act in delay when battery goes down) but thats exactly why I didnt go for note5. Although my Next was for 1 year. I ended up paying ATT fast and didnt get a new phone. It was stupid


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  • Everyone is commenting about the non removable battery, so I'll avoid that one as I am on all the commenters' side. However, it seems as many people are quite pessimistic about this phone release and I can't understand why. Samsung actually listens to its customers and adapts while creating new and interesting features. The note 6 being both faster and more efficient than the note 4 is reason enough for me to upgrade. Better yet, it sounds like it will come with a very large battery and a wonderful usb-c port. Also there are rumors of it coming with a snapdragon chip that hasn't come out yet (823). This phone will be a monster and even if you can't remove the battery, and it does go bad, you can still replace it, it just takes a YouTube video and about an hour. Be happy you aren't glued to a company that is removing it's headphone jack lol
    The addition of an IR blaster would be pretty nice however, I wonder if Samsung ran into some trouble with putting those in their devices.


  • Erian May 10, 2016 Link to comment

    When the freaking battery will get swollen not even a power bank is going to save your day. You have to buy a new phone. How about this?


    • Your battery should never swell if you use the device correctly. More here:

      https://www.androidpit.com/tips-to-stop-your-battery-from-exploding


      • Mark
        • Admin
        May 10, 2016 Link to comment

        Scott That may be true in an ideal world. I have had two batteries swell on me for my S3 and I do use them correctly. Batteries go bad some come with manufacturing flaws. I have seen an S6 destroyed because of the battery swelling it split apart the glass from the frame and cracked it.


      • Yeah of course, things can go wrong, but if that IS the case, then A) a replacement battery won't help you (the battery will have expanded in the device) and B) the manufacturer should replace the device anyway.


      • I read your linked article about battery life. It contained the exact stuffy, officious and presumptuous balderdash that I expected it would...to the word. It's the battery advice equivalent of 'Uhhh, reboot, it'll fix everything. And never install third party software on your computer sir...nothing except what the OEM put on it from the factory, sir." Officious 80s/90s bullshit. I know, I was alive then!

        The bottom line is, we're past that already.

        And, no, we should NOT have to use the OEM battery! And, no, that and the OEM charger will NOT prevent battery expansion (and btw we're talking about 'expansion' not 'explosion' which WOULD require a new phone).

        We have the right to use another brand of battery or charger if we want to. Proprietary everything...is SOOO not where it's at these days! Get your head out of the 90s.

        Besides, many of us want an expanded capacity battery, which is an obvious reason that I surprisingly forgot in my earlier list.

        I had a nice Seidio expanded battery a few phones back, and would have one on both my Note 2 & 4, but for the inexplicable fact that Otterbox does not coordinate with the major manufacturers of expanded batteries & design for the use of the maximum size expanded battery. I don't like having to make a choice between a case such as Otterbox and an expanded battery. I need both.

        I would have an expanded battery despite the fact that they both stay on a charger almost 100% of the time...just for when they aren't on the charger, or I have a total electrical failure on the truck, on the highway...in the middle of nowhere, which happens.

        In the case of being stranded far from civilization, the phone and it's battery life (and the battery life of your backup batteries), is your only lifeline.

        The same applies to anyone who wants to go camping or basically any kind of non-urban adventure. This may apply someday to young tech writers who aren't imagining that someday they may decide to go on a holiday to some place where their wall or mobile charges will be utterly useless...in which case stored electricity may be their only option. They may also prioritize the lightweight option of not carrying around a heavier external battery. Or they may for some reason want the extra security of having both, or all possible solutions, for maximum flexibility.

        Bottom line...these are OUR phones! They don't belong to the OEMs or the carriers anymore. They need to be designed and optimized for the widest possible use cases, not the esthetic sense of some sheltered hothouse tech pinhead who rollerskates to work and has reliable electrical supplies in every facet of his life, has a carrier repair center conveniently nearby everywhere he is, and can't conceive of any universe or use case or unanticipated wildcard scenario other than his accustomed and sheltered life.

        Put that in your pipe and smoke it for awhile young man!


      • Mark
        • Admin
        May 10, 2016 Link to comment

        Scott
        Not if the device has a removable back. When the battery expanded in my S3 it popped loose the back cover. It has a couple of fine lines in the finish, that's all. 3 bucks for a new back and I am good, Nothing beats having a replaceable battery. Also if you drop your phone the battery comes out saves the device from extra damage.


  • The author has no clue for saying no one needs a removable battery. It's a stupid notion that lugging around a battery pack is more efficient than a removable battery.

    I'd love to see a 4500mAh removable battery and the have the IR blaster back. Also .a 256gb internal storage option would be nice


  • MrMLK May 10, 2016 Link to comment

    I was skimming when I cam across "Why does anybody want a removable battery? Just buy a portable charger." Clearly, this guy doesn't understand what he is talking about.


    • Mark
      • Admin
      May 10, 2016 Link to comment

      Hi MrMLK
      I will give you a few reasons why I will not buy a phone without a removable battery.
      1) you limit the life of your phone to the life of the battery.
      2) it is much easier to carry an external charger and spare battery than a brick ( AKA power bank)
      3) if your phone gets wet you can take the battery out to prevent damage
      4) if your phone locks up or isn't operating right you can take out the battery to reset your phone. Hard reset does not work the same.
      5) having a charged battery standing by gives you peace at mind you are not worrying about running down your battery.
      Plus the other reason people have mentioned here just to get started.


    • Clearly!!


  • The more you use your phone, the faster the battery will deteriorate. If you are a power user you will need another battery after about 8 months to a year. Batteries are much easier to carry around than a battery pack. I have 3 extra batteries for my Note 4.


  • I wish that they would make a successor to my note edge, it is a great phone


  • Hi I like to see a curve screen, larger battery, microsd slot, better camera I take alot of pictures more storage may 1 or 2 starting colors beside black and white, maybe like black white blue tan.


  • Mark
    • Admin
    May 10, 2016 Link to comment

    The Note 6 Needs a removable battery. The Note series is designed for the business/power user. The removable battery is essential. The Note 4 is still the best over all phone for the business/power user, because of the removable battery and other features. I would buy the Note 6 in a second if it has one. I will not but it if it doesn't. I am still leaning to the LG G5. I would have bought one except the only color in stock was Rose, and I don't buy pink phones.


  • i don't care if it has a removable battery or not, a battery pack can supply up to 2X maybe 3x battery power.
    i don't let my NOTE3 that i am still using anywhere water, but it would be nice just in case. NOTE3 is the best samsung phone so far. Hope all the hype for NOTE6 is correct . hehe


  • A spare battery takes far less room in a pocket than a battery pack. PLUS, if phone freezes- and they do, a quick battery removal sorts that out straight away, without having to faff about with key combinations. If there are any.
    People in offices forget that there are others who have no access to a wall charger by day or at night.
    This is why we like and want removable batteries.
    I personally would rather have a phone with a removable battery than all this water resistant stuff. Anyone who gets their £600+ phone ANYWHERE near water, is a braver person than me.
    Electronics and water never did mix too well.


    • Thanks for the comment Greg! These are interesting points. I agree about water resistance. It's kind of a stupid idea because it only applies under quite strict conditions (1 metre of fresh water etc) -- it's not like you could just drop it in the bath by accident and be GUARANTEED it would still function.

      "People in offices forget that there are others who have no access to a wall charger by day or at night." -- yes, it is easy for me to forget these things.

      BUT!! You need to load a removable battery in your handset in the first place -- THIS IS SUPER INCONVENIENT. What's more, it means you still need access to a wall charger!!

      AND they don't take up MUCH less room, you can find teeny tiny little portable chargers right now that are also very cheap, and they can be used to charge more than just your smartphone! Give one a try! ;)


      • 'Super inconvenient' compared to running out of power if you have no place to plug in or no time to recharge?? Jeeeez!!!!

        The bottom line is that swapping batteries does NOT require a wall charger...that is one half of the whole point of them!

        The other half is that it is, contrary to what you implied, vastly faster than recharging. And until we have batteries that recharge to 100% in the same time it takes to swap batteries, that will remain the case. Many times people may actually have a place to plug in, but for whatever reason they can't remain stationary there and can't leave their phone unattended and/or cannot wait for the phone to slowly recharge. Swapping the battery keeps the phone physically in their hands...for security and gets them going within a minute or so.


      • And what about a freezing phone? I have that sometimes while flashing a rom. I could not do without a removable battery.
        What you say about charging an extra battery is BS. People do that when they're at home.
        Couldn't you have guessed?


      • Great points about the necessity of being able to pull the battery while flashing a rom. I hadn't thought of that. I would like to root my phone, but I don't have the confidence yet. I wish the carriers had the business sense to offer them rooted from the store for a reasonable fee. Probably everyone would pay it, and the potential issues of rooting would be engineered out in short order.

        After all, Windows machines and all other computers are 'rooted' by definition and the sky doesn't fall.

        Also, all Windows laptops (that I know of) have a consumer replaceable battery. Why would you want or accept any portable computer (i.e. 'laptop'), that DIDN'T have a battery you could replace yourself or yank out when needed?? It's unthinkable to not be able to pull the battery out of a laptop...and should be equally unthinkable on a phone form factor computer as well.

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