Is there too much Google in Android 4.4 KitKat?

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Dec 10, 2013 11:48:45 PM via Website

Ah... good to know! I sold my Nexus 4 anyway.... bad camera wasn't working for me. I survived for a while, but had enough when KitKat came along.

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Dec 11, 2013 12:35:53 AM via Website

Yep, I'm in the last week of having my Nexus 4 before it goes to its new home. I'll be sad to see it go, but I have to say, I'm loving my Nexus 5! I'm just happy I had a little overlap between the two so I do lots of comparisons and really realize just how great the Nexus 5 is (especially when the Nexus 4 is also so great)

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Dec 11, 2013 12:43:56 AM via Website

I've been messing around with it (nexus 5) for a few hours. It came with 4.4.1, I've been to busy rooting and meddling to bother checking for anything, but I don't find the Google aspect overpowering. Having previously owned an HTC and a couple of Sony Ericssons I'm really appreciating the stock AOSP interface compared to the usual bloatware, and obviously the outright speed and power of the N5 is a revelation. There is, or was, a thread on xda about de-googling android phones because obviously they can still function without Google apps (as most people find out after their first cm flash) but the Google ecosystem is not as controlling or closed as Apple's, and it turned out most people were happier with Google included.

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Feb 5, 2014 8:42:09 AM via Website

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@John ... The main glitchiness I found on mine was way too fast battery drain and way too slow camera response (significantly slower than when it was jelly bean). You haven't found those issues?

No didn't know about those glitches because i still don't have nexus, i was actually planning to get one but after hearing about the glitches i've been on the waiting state !!
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Feb 11, 2014 1:07:15 AM via Website

The battery and camera lag issues were resolved with the 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 updates. The Nexus 5 is great now (I have one), but we're just about to enter the mobile device release-fest following CES and MWC, so you'll have plenty more options in the next couple of months (although they'll cost a pretty penny more than a Nexus).

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Mar 12, 2014 3:11:14 PM via Website

Does anyone know when the Galaxy Mega 6.3 for Sprint will get the KitKat (4.4.2) upgrade? My wife has an S4 and has had it for a while now.
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Mar 28, 2014 12:49:44 PM via Website

I started feeling like Google was taking over my device with the S3. I have begun to try to "turn off" and disable some of the Google functions. What became the most frustrating is the battery drain from Google constantly checking for updates (or whatever it is doing behind the scenes) ..

Yeah, i couldn't agree more. Sometime, it's really annoying how Google always download the latest updates on my phone without my permission. this happens also on my laptop through Google Chrome. So fu** Google with this policy. They should stop doing this or else i would disable all of its apps in the future.
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Apr 4, 2014 11:17:33 AM via Website

I have a Nexus 5 (32 GB) and really love it! It is just the
right size and weight, and has an awesome HD screen and a powerful processor. I
hope the Nexus 6 will not be any bigger (like have a 5.5" screen) as this
would be a show stopper for me.

My wishlist for the new Nexus 6 :

- better battery (that lasts longer)

- better camera (at least 13 or 16 Megapixels)

- no bigger that the Nexus 5 (which is my personal size limit)

- LTE (of course!)

- 802.11ac Wifi (same as Nexus 5)

- a higher resolution screen (like quad HD)

- a faster processor (at least a snapdragon 805)

- and that feature on the Galaxy S5 where you can combine LTE and WiFi to speed up file download!

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Apr 13, 2014 4:56:47 AM via Website

Too much google? Get an iPhone. Android is Googles operating system. It is like saying there is too much Microsoft in Windows.
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Apr 30, 2014 7:31:18 AM via Website

Ralph Niederlander

Too much google? Get an iPhone. Android is Googles operating system. It is like saying there is too much Microsoft in Windows.

Agree. Currently I'm happy with Google Now on my phone. And the "always listen" Google Now sound interesting. But I think it would be better if Google should push an option to disable it for other guys don't like.

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Apr 30, 2014 1:38:29 PM via Website

In all fairness I have come around a bit to the Google presence in KitKat.

Like many others, I'm a little wary of handing over my firstborn to Google, but the undeniable fact is that they make pretty good products and services. Sure, you can avoid all the Google content in KitKat if you really want to, but I think their integration of Maps, Hangouts, Google Now and so on is part of what I like the most about KitKat.

Before KitKat I didn't need or think about Google Now and wasn't a user of Hangouts (or even Google Maps for that matter as I have lots of alternatives I prefer), so kitKat has certainly managed to win me over to more Google services. Well played, Google, well played!

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Aug 26, 2014 8:28:27 PM via Website

Kris Carlon

Before KitKat I didn't need or think about Google Now and wasn't a user of Hangouts (or even Google Maps for that matter as I have lots of alternatives I prefer), so kitKat has certainly managed to win me over to more Google services. Well played, Google, well played!

Hey guys, I don't want to upset anyone but here goes. YOU ARE RUNNING ANDROID which is first and foremost LINUX and secondly a GOOGLE variant of it. I rooted my modest device not even a full week after buying it from Orange. Which of course was to get all the Orange bloatware out of the device. And secondly and as much if not more important, to get what I want to be runing on the device. And Kris well said, "well played Google". All Android experience is opened to public except for the Google package which makes sense, it's Google's package after all. So if you don't want google on it then take it out. And if you guys want to use the Windows crap on a linux variant maybe you don't get the whole Linux being open thing and you are better of with Apple or Windows and go and cry about everey minor problem to those guys. Being a linux user, whatever variant it may be, requires one to think for himself and do what he pleases = open/free. You don't like something...fine, change it. TYou don't know how? Learn or buy an Apple which will alwayas run perfectly but won't let you change anything. So sure Google wants to know everything. But it asks you nicely. And you can very well say no if you please. But people nowadays are so used to being able to complain about their problems and not even considering the "effort" to think, that sure it seems to them that Google is in control. So you get an open platform on which Google has put some of its creations and lets YOU decide if you want to use them, or make your own if you have the knowhow and even share them or use someone elses. So it seems to me that all Google is doing is showing us what it could be like and letting us do what we want. Put Apple next to that and the so called battle between them suddenly makes no sense.
PS. I appologise for my Englishm it's not my first language. And excuse me for my ,agresive to some, oppinion. It is not my intention to judge or to offend anyone.

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Aug 26, 2014 8:36:15 PM via Website

By the way I am running Kit Kat X86 on my Lenovo T400 laptop and it rocks. Sure I have Win 7 installed on it in dual boot but it's slowlly getting covered in spiderwebs. I run the same Kit Kat on a Dell Inspiron 910 mini and rocks as well. Sure its diffrent from what you are used to on a laptop its better. everything is insta-on & running and boy does it run.
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Aug 28, 2014 3:23:21 PM via Website

Hey Gabriel, thanks for sharing your opinion. I thought you might like to have a read of this great story by Ron Amadeo, where he decided to completely de-Google Android. Very interesting (and ugly) experiment!

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Aug 31, 2014 7:21:05 AM via Website

Google simply can't make itself too much part of Android, because Android is opensource.

That means, without Google, Android has to be a full featured OS. And it is. Have you ever installed CyanogenMod and not put the Google Apps Framework zip? The result is a fully working Google-less smartphone OS.

Sure, being Google-less means no Play Store. But hey, you can download APKs and install them or even download Amazon App Store.

And of course the opensource bundled apps may not be as good as Google's counterparts (I.e. Play Music and Chrome). But, it's an open platform! Go and find a good replacement app! CyanogenMod actually already comes with good replacements for many of these apps.

But maybe your not that radical, and still want Play Store, YouTube and/or Maps; or maybe you don't want to root and stuff. What now? You can still do it! Android is not iOS! You can disable Google apps selectively, set third party apps as default, replace your keyboard, your browser, your map engine, even your home screen without touching your bootloader!

As I mentioned, the Google Framework comes separated from the basic OS+apps in custom roms (for legal reasons). That means Google stuff come as an attachable layer, not an integrant part of the OS source code

Oh, but you wanted the cool stuff to be part of the open source OS and not of the Google Framework... What else? Google is a company! Not a foundation! And allowing you to replace theyr functionality with third party solutions is far far far far ahead of the competition. Just try to sidestep Apple and Microsoft in iOS and Windows Phone without jail breaking. You can't!

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Sep 3, 2014 9:53:30 PM via Website

Hey Kris! Thanks for the read, but wasn't this about taking Google out of Android not every component manufacturer. If you want a completely "free" device + os you need to make one from scratch, yourself. Windows runs on proprietary drivers and lots of other platforms and devices. We were not talking about drivers but apps. And I don't know how many drivers Google owns on the nexus platforms or any other but I doubt them being many. In which case get another device. As for software, yes it's true that if you take the google out of android and replace that with something else, it feels strange. But that's to be expected as someone else said, android being a google variant built by google to use google cloud services. So if you dump google you must be aware you are dumping alot of the android fee also. This does not mean you cannot replace that feeling to an alternate one it just won't be the one everyone knows. Anyway I still don't understand what is so bad about google that you want to replace it in the first place. If you are worrying about privacy...cellular companies do the same. They route the voice tragic and they listen to some of that. And so do many many service providers. So if you come to ghat ...well that means you don't use anything that is made by someone else and which doesn't offer you complete control. And that's almost impossible. Use a spoon inatead...ooh no what if it's an antena of some sort :P

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Sep 4, 2014 5:01:47 AM via App

Interesting articles, thanks. I happily disabled pretty near all Google apps on my Moto G 4G, it was the first thing I did when I activated it for the first time. I love Android and think it has a lot of potential, but I have grown to dislike and distrust Google.

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Sep 17, 2014 1:31:31 PM via Website

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